Getting Hitched? Should You Hitch Your Money Too?

Today’s post is brought to you by a guest blogger: The Weakonomist.  The Weakonomist is an anonymous blogger responsible for everything at Weakonomics .  You can usually find him standing at the corner of Wall St. and Main St. throwing rocks at traffic, but today he has something else on his mind.  He’s getting married this fall and wants to talk to you about joint vs separate checking accounts.  So without further ado, allow me to present:  The Weakonomist!

 

Last fall, I pulled my girlfriend (The Sheconomist) out to our favorite spot at our favorite beach and whipped out a beautiful ring; I got down on one knee and asked: “Will you pay off your credit card and boost your savings?”  Wait.  Huh?  

Had I asked that of course she would have kicked sand in my face, taken the ring and ran.  Thankfully I’m not that stupid.  We are happily engaged now and she’s busy planning the wedding for this fall.  She’s doing most of the planning for the ceremony, which leaves me with not much to do.  So I took it upon myself to think about our money situation.  There are a few loose strings anyone should tie up before getting married like clearing up old debts, increasing savings, or curbing that compulsive video game buying habit.  But those are things you take care before the big day, what do you do with your money after the honeymoon is over?

The basic foundation of any family lies within the accounts with the most cash flow.  Usually this is your checking account.  Both you and your spouse are probably working, and then there are a number of bills you have to pay each month.  So for most of us the checking account is the most important account in day to day life.  In my life I’ve seen spouses deal with the checking account issues in two ways:

Joint:
In my experience this is the most common solution.  You’re married now and you share everything, money should be no different.  By having a joint checking account you are showing each other that you trust one another to not abuse the system.  After all, to both of you it’s going to look like a lot of money is in that account with two paychecks going into it.  

Separate:
Since I grew up in a happy home of joint accounts I was skeptical at the possibility of a married couple using separate accounts.  I figured having separate accounts fostered an atmosphere of mistrust.  But then I learned my aunt and uncle have used this system and are just as happily married as my parents.  So perhaps there is some merit to it.  Maybe the husband is in charge of all the bills and the wife takes care of buying food or something.

It’s obvious of my bias towards a joint checking account.  However the smartest thing I can say is to admit this is because I don’t know much about how the separate checking system would work.  I see potential for someone to run out of money and the other must pick up the slack, which could create frustration.  But again the system itself requires you to trust your spouse to take care of their finances.

It would appear that it may not be a matter of how you put your money together at all.  It just simply comes down to trust with the family  finances.  Regardless of how many checkbooks you’ve got you have to believe in your spouse and rely on them to take care of their
responsibilities and not overspend.  Without that trust the marriage is doomed to fail and no accounting system can save that.

So what will The Weakonomist and The Sheconomist do?  We both agree right now that we will start out with a joint account.  Again this goes back to our experiences with our parents.  We both like to spend a little money from time to time though, and I can foresee me putting my foot down over a Marc Jacobs purse (yes I know what one is!) or her saying forget it to the
latest Apple product.  To mediate this problem we could each pay ourselves an allowance out of our joint checking.  Maybe it’s $200 a month each into other accounts or just in a cash system, this will allow us to each have discretionary spending without an issue of trust.

But because of Tabitha’s highly responsive reader base, I want to open the floor to you.  What systems have you seen work and not work?  If you’re married what system works for you?  If you’re not married what thoughts do you have about the shared finances of getting married?

 



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Joanna - March 27, 2009 - 3:48 am

All of our accounts (checking, savings and investments) are joint. However, we each have an individual separate checking account. This is where our Mad Money goes. Mad Money is our monthly “allowance” plus any birthday/Christmas/graduation monies that we receive that are intended for our individual use. There’s not enough money to get into trouble :) but enough so that when I decide I finally cannot live without that new iPod touch, I can get it without forcing my family to live on Ramen noodles for the rest of the month.

We each are in charge of keeping track of the money in our individual accounts, but I’m in charge of the budget and day-to-day bookkeeping of the joint accounts. We do have all our information in Mint with weekly overviews of our spending sent to each of us by e-mail so my husband is kept up-to-date on where our money goes.

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Julie - March 27, 2009 - 4:20 am

Everything is joint for us. He does have his own checking account from t he bank he got his college loans through. So we put money in that every so often he uses it as his ebay fund for new chainsaws and stuff for “the business.” I work for ChaCha online and they pay me with a debit card so that is my clothing fund, etc. But other than that, all joint. And I’m in charge of the money. He doesn’t understand that just because we have money doesn’t mean it can get spend.

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kriss - March 27, 2009 - 4:58 am

We have been married eleven years and have always had seperate accounts. It works very well for us. When I worked and he was going to school I paid most of the bills and he paid one’s that he was aloted based on his small salary. When he finished school and got a great job we realoted the bills so that I had certain ones and he had other ones. We always trusted the other person to handle the bill they were responcible for. It allowed us each to have a seperate savings account and spending money. He always trusted me to pay my share of the bills so if I went out and bought a purse he knew I had the cash for it or I wouldn’t have bought it. It really saved us alot of arguements because not once has he ever questioned one of my purchases and I do the same for him. Then when we adopted our children it was agreed that I would stay home and raise them. We discussed closing my account and having one joint. I just couldn’t do it. It was then he took the bulk of the bills and I got the subsities that the kids get (they were CPS adoptions) to pay for them clothes, supplies, McDonalds, etc We opened up a Home Depot Credit card that is joint so if I buy gas or groceries then I am to use the card so we earn points. He pays it off at the end of the month and it allows me to have more cash to spend on the children since the subsities is their money. He also knows that I am spend thrify and have never abused the card. Since I am a Stay at home mom, I couldn’t imagine having to ask him for money, it would feel so degrading after having it seperate for so many years. I can also say we have never fought over money!!! The seperate accounts work for us.

patty - March 27, 2009 - 5:22 am

Married 33 years and started with joint – - just didn’t work because he would forget to write down a check (before debit cards made life so easy!) – and back then every single penny counted!

We would come up short and arguments over money are no fun!

He has a job that he’s on call and sometimes would be gone for 24-72 hours and it was a mess.

We decided to “try” seperate accounts and then we had children and basically I took responsiblity of the house mortgage and anything the girls needed (day care, doctor’s appointments, their clothes, shoes – etc,etc,etc) and it has worked perfect for us! Through the years I’ve taken other household bills and just like kriss stated you have to trust each other to pay the bills that you say you will.

For us – it’s the perfect situation, but each family is different and has to do what’s right for them!

One little perk (and kind of a game with us) – we’re home alone with no children at home and we both still work. If one of us calls the other and says let’s go eat at such and such a place……it’s just a done deal – whoever had the idea……pays!!!
pb

Jill - March 27, 2009 - 5:30 am

Our paychecks and bills are all paid from a joint account. The bulk of our really accessible money is in joint savings, followed by joint checking. We also have a good chunk in some joint investments. When we first got married, we didn’t really argue about money, but we definitely questioned one another. I also felt guilty because we had moved for his job, and it took me awhile to find one, so sometimes I felt bad for spending money…like it wasn’t mine or something. We solved that by doing weekly allowances. For over 3 yrs we’ve done it on a cash basis. I recently set mine up to auto-transfer to a personal checking account, just because if I buy online, it is hard to do that with cash, then “pay back” to the account what I’ve charged on the card, etc. Basically, that money is ours to do with as we please (within reason of course!). For me that means going to lunch with friends, buying coffee every day, etc. For him, it means saving a large chunk to buy the latest computer gadget. It works well for us.

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admin - March 27, 2009 - 5:34 am

Weakonomist – what a great post! I know that my husband and I have talked at length about this. As you know, we’re recently married ourselves and first tried to split the bills pretty evenly. I’m horrible with bill paying, however, and since he’s a CPA, it just made more sense for him to do it. So now I give him a good portion of my check to pay the main bills and the rest goes towards a couple of my individual bills and my allowance. We each have spending money that we allot ourselves to do what we will. It works really well actually. :)

Tabitha

ps – thanks again for the post – it’s great!

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Janet - March 27, 2009 - 5:34 am

The DH and I have joint savings and checking accounts. Each week a pre-determined amount is transferred automatically from checking into the savings account. Then, also each week, we both get an “allowance” to be spent however each of us sees fit. Both of us save out of the allowance too. This savings goes for little indulgences or larger expenses. I have been saving out of my allowance to get a set of new tires for my car. The DH feels uncomfortable without cash on hand so he usually stockpiles his and then it goes back into the shared savings account. So we have a little freedom and flexibility built into the system. I am the bill payer and he trusts me to take care of all things financial.

the domestic fringe - March 27, 2009 - 5:48 am

We’ve always had a joint account which we use for almost everything in the family; however, we also each have a separate account. This is basically because we’ve both also run small businesses out of our home and want to keep any problems with bounced checks, etc. out of our family account. We bank online and money transfer is super easy. So, in a nutshell we’re both separate and joint. Trust is the bottom line.

-FringeGirl

Briony - March 27, 2009 - 6:09 am

Congrats on your engagement! I’ve really only hear of joint accounts and if marriage is in my future I would definitely lean more toward that way of dealing with finances.
One of the biggest problems I’ve seen with finances in marriage is that all the responsibility is left on one persons shoulders. Paying of the bills, working out a budget and so on. I find that the person who takes care of the bills has a higher stress level when it comes to life in general because they are always calculating cost in their heads, which can lead to bitterness. Where the other person who has no idea what’s going on with their finances gets bitter when they don’t have the money they want in their pockets.
I think it is best to share the responsibility, I know there needs to be an elected person to make sure it gets done but I think that both spouses should know where their money is going and why the budget is the way it is and the best way to see that is to sit down with the financial spouse and see for yourself. Money is a big issue in relationships, there are so many ways it can eat away at each person…it’s important to have a good plan ready to put in play before you get married.

Great post!

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emilyG - March 27, 2009 - 6:46 am

We have one joint account. He has another one from before that he keeps, and uses for ebay, like another reader mentioned.

DH has somewhat of a spending.. habit. He made quite a bit for someone his age, and always has bought whatever he wanted. And I got used to buying things without thinking.. obviously. I didn’t have a husband or a baby two years ago. So with us having a joint account, it keeps both of us from being frivolous, since it seems like OUR money, rather than to each his own.

the weakonomist - March 27, 2009 - 7:06 am

Wow! This is fantastic feedback and exactly what I wanted. It is great to know that my fears of separate accounts may not need exist. Looks like many people have happy and healthy marriages with them. I’m looking forward to reading more comments. Thanks for letting me guest post Tabitha!

Meg - March 27, 2009 - 7:24 am

My husband and I were already in our 30s when we got married (just last summer!), so our various accounts and financial habits are pretty deeply engrained. But we did happen to do our banking with the same bank. So we’ve kept our own separate checking and savings accounts, and we’ve opened a joint checking account. The bills are paid out of the money that’s contributed to that joint account. We eventually plan to combine our savings accounts (just haven’t gotten around to it, frankly), but assuming we both continue to work, we’ll probably maintain our system of separate and joint checking accounts. It’s not a trust thing. I think we both were just independent for so long, this system feels comfortable to us.

Terra - March 27, 2009 - 8:29 am

We too have joint accounts for everything, and that started the day we moved into our house (prior to engagements and marriage). It started with one account that a set amount of money was to be placed in for household bills, then it boiled down to the fact that we were spending the same money regardless of “who’s” account it came from. All the money was pooled, and we trust each other to make good judgements about spending and discussing big purchases.

I have seen separate accounts in marriages as well, and in all honestly, the biggest marriage problem of that relationship is… you guessed it, MONEY. The marriage is on the rocks and money is at the root of all fo it. From what I have seen, it’s not something I would recommend unless both people are equally invested in the marriage and in the bills.

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Sarah - March 27, 2009 - 9:09 am

I’m single but have seen how my parents handle their money. My mom has never worked outside the home and my dad owns a dental practice. My mom handles all the business and personal bills out of joint accounts. My dad does not have a debit card for their personal checking account because he was always forgetting to give my mom the receipts and it made for a huge challenge to balance the account. For a time he just used a credit card but then felt he was over spending with it. He keeps a credit card on hand for emergencies but doesn’t use it regularly. Now my mom gives him cash a couple times a month to spend however he chooses. When he needs to fill up his gas tank, is out of cash, or plans to make a large purchase he borrows my mom’s debit card. Any purchase they make together are paid for using my mom’s debit card or credit card. My dad reviews the business and personal accounts often so he knows where things are at. They always discuss big purchases before they are made but for everyday items they just buy what they need or want. I’ve never known them to fight about money and they are both very responsible with it.

Irena - March 27, 2009 - 1:15 pm

My husband and I had separate accounts, now we joined them. I used to take care of all the bills out of my checking and had savings that were for us to use if necessary, but both accounts were in my name. My husband has savings accounts/investments from before we were married, and those are in his name. It took us a while to combine things, but mostly because of procrastination, not principle. Now, my paycheck almost entirely is deposited to joined checking and then we make savings/spending decisions. All purchases go from that account. This makes me more disciplined about buying and really consider if I need anything. This is working great for me, as I was trying to curb (i.e. stop) my spending and works great for my husband because he really is not a spender. I maintain a separate checking account only because my student loan is connected to it and it is a major pain to get it transferred to another account. I am working on it, though. All in all, I believe that having our joint pool of money is very good, I feel that I need to have greater accountability and this is exactly what I get. However, I found that since we joined all money, we save less, as my husband does not transfer money to savings every 2 weeks, like I used to… but we are working on it too. I completely trust him to buy whatever he needs, and for large purchases, like car maintenance, several books at once, new coat, etc we always discuss first, then make a decision.

Robynn's Ravings - March 27, 2009 - 3:39 pm

My EX-husband and I kept separate accounts. I’m not sure we ever really married. It was more of an attempt at a merger. I paid half of everything though he made three times what I did. He said it wasn’t his fault if I had a low-paying job. The happiest thing about this whole comment are the two letters “EX!”

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Nancy - March 27, 2009 - 9:38 pm

When we first met, we had two separate accounts, and made about the same amount, so we just went 50/50 or took turns.

Then we got married and my husband got a new job that paid about twice mine. So we got a joint account and kept the separate ones. Every other paycheck went into the joint account and we paid joint bills out of that. And we kinda split the other stuff by percentage. Since I brought in 1/3 of the income, I paid out 1/3 and so on.

Then, we moved again, and I had to spend awhile looking for a job. And my husband got a pay raise. We didn’t really change our financial arrangements, which was a mistake. But I’d always paid my own bills, and I didn’t want to seem like I was taking my husband’s money. (silly in retrospect, but I was being stubborn)

To wrap up, I really like each having our own account with our own “fun money” and having a joint account for joint stuff. It feels a little silly to have so many accounts, but it works well. The reason I like each of us having our own fun money accounts, is that I don’t have to feel like I have to justify spending so much money on more eyeliner or pens, and my husband doesn’t have to justify buying yet again another flash drive or boy scout patch. :)
No spouse should ever be the other spouse’s “parent” in terms of money.

sparkly_jules - March 27, 2009 - 10:07 pm

We’ve been married two years and five months (10/22/06), and we have separate accounts. We do, however, both have access to each others accounts.

I keep track of the bills and when they are due, and when it gets time to pay the bill, I tell my husband. Whoever has money (because we often don’t simultaneously have money), pays the bill. There is no “yours or mine,” it’s all “our” money, even though they are in separate accounts. If we go out to eat, it doesn’t matter who pays, it’s “ours.”

If I, however, decide I want to buy something special for myself, I usually wait until I have the extra money, or ask him if he minds and we can afford it (like a new purse ;-) .

We have talked about a joint account recently, but I could go either way on that. It’s not important to me. That may change at some point in the future.

The most important thing is to talk about your finances. No keeping secret Apple/purse purchases secret–it will come out in the wash, anyways.

Do what is most comfortable for you two as a couple. That is the most important thing after communicating your wants, needs, and desires. No mind-reading allowed. :-D

Congratulations and good luck!

Jules

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Cody - March 28, 2009 - 5:00 am

I’m almost-married, and we’ve been cohabitating for three years.

We have joint checking and savings, which we use for bills, groceries, nights out, etc. We also each have a personal checking account, to be used for whatever we like.

I honestly can’t imagine any other system working for us. Completely separate seems too complicated, and with completely joint… I feel like I’d have to ask ‘permission’ to grab a latte on the way to work or buy anything for myself.

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Heidi - March 29, 2009 - 12:14 am

My fiance and I are in exactly the same place right now.

We sort of set the ground rules when we got an apartment together. I was responsible for utilities, he was responsible for the rent, and I’d end up writing him a check for the difference. We kept our separate checking and savings accounts and things went smoothly.

Now that we’re engaged and own a house, we’re at a point now where it feels almost silly to have separate accounts. However, neither of us is eager to lump everything together … yet.

We both work and we both make similar incomes. Although I’ve got considerably less debt than him, neither of us is terribly reckless with money.

Some days I think it won’t matter whether or not we combine accounts. Other days, (like the day he dropped $800 on Phish concert tickets) I think it might be best if we continue to maintain our individual finances.

I can’t berate him for spending $800 on concert tickets when it’s coming from his checking account. However, had it come from a joint account, I’d likely go off the deep end.

We both like our banks and we both enjoy the “freedom,” or at least the suggested freedom of having separate accounts.

But based on what some of the folks here have said, it seems the middle ground is the way to go: a joint account for mortgage/utilities/home improvements/etc, and separate accounts for “mad money,” as Joanna calls it.

(Cody, I hear ya! I never want to feel like I’m putting my husband out if I spring for a latte on the way to work.)

Yes Weakonomist, Tabitha’s readers are a loyal bunch. I’m insanely jealous of her readership! She’s got a great blog, writes well about things people can relate to and without polarizing, patronizing or preaching to her readers, she generates a steady stream of thoughtful comments.

Good luck! I’ll be sure to check out your blog. Perhaps you can help steer ME through my financial fork(s) in the road.

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Alzo - March 30, 2009 - 2:35 am

Good and thought-provoking post. Thanks, Weakonomist. My wife and I have separate checking accounts, but they are integrated. First, her name is on my account and my name is on hers. Second, the bills are divided up so that each of us pays certain ones out of our earnings, and we each have a fairly generous allowance, which we do not have to account to the other for. So far, it has worked out fairly well.

erin - March 30, 2009 - 10:36 am

DH and I have a kind of hybrid system in that we both have separate checking accounts, but mine is more of an “allowance” account and his is where the bills get paid out of. I cash my paycheck, do the grocery shopping, and bring him home the rest minus my small allowance. I’m horrible at paying bills and while I understand the general concept of a budget, I just don’t get it in practice. DH is much more disciplined than me so he manages the money and I trust him 100% to manage it well. We also have an open-book policy where if/when I want to be more involved with the money management or just take a look at the bank statements or balance sheet and see where our money is going (and vice versa) all that information is readily available, so it’s not like there are any secrets between us.

DH and I also have very different attitudes about money and how we spend it (I’m a terrible saver but spending makes me very nervous and research the heck out of everything, while DH is a very emotional spender and disciplined saver) so we always make big decisions together. I think either way, joint or separate accounts, the most important thing is to be on the same page about your financial goals and to be open, trusting, and transparent about everything.

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V. Higgins - March 30, 2009 - 1:25 pm

Recently married (10 months next week) and we have a joint account to pay bills, rent, groceries, etc. That’s where the paychecks go, out of that we each have our cash allowance (weekly) and I put some of mine into a HYSA. So far its been the perfect set-up. There isn’t the feeling of “mine” and “yours” but there’s the flexibility of not feeling guilty for buying a new pair of shoes or a MP3 player because that’s what the “fun money” is for!

admin - March 31, 2009 - 9:04 am

such great comments! Thanks to everyone who left their thoughts for the Weakonomist – it’s been very helpful to read and hear what works!

Eric - April 5, 2009 - 2:49 pm

We’re getting married in June, but have been living together for over a year. We’ve got a joint checking account for paying the bills; the JOINT bills. However, we each have our separate checking accounts for paying our individual bills. By individual bills I mean things such as fuel for our cars, weekly lunch or dinner money (used during work or such), and even our monthly car payments as we each have new cars that we purchased separately.

This system has worked for the past year or so, but I’ve been thinking of ditching the individual accounts and sticking with the joint account. As pointed out in this post, marriage is about sharing. We share every aspect of our lives, why not the money? I think it just brings trust and balance to a relationship. With all of the worry and frustration over money these days, who wants to add the extra stress to a new relationship (or a thriving marriage) of “who’s money is who’s”?

Jim @ ChangeJarSavings.com - April 16, 2009 - 9:37 am

In the past we (my wife and I) have used both. We both have separate checking accounts and joint savings. When we got married we immediately “became one” with a joint account. It was later that we each opened a separate account. This has created more problems for us though. More accounts to reconcile and my wife is not very good at doing this. After several overdraft charges her account sits with about $5 to keep it open.

However this month we are doing away with all checkbooks, debit and credit cards. I even went so far as to cancel direct deposits. This is our Old School Finance month to see if we can survive without the conveniences that have been sold to us by the banks that continue to find ways to drain money away from us. So far we are even saving money.

Jim @ ChangeJarSavings.com – Just my two cents!

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Bob - January 5, 2010 - 2:42 pm

“I paid half of everything though he made three times what I did. He said it wasn’t his fault if I had a low-paying job.”

That post reminded me of the problems we’re having. I make more money on paper but all of our health insurance (med/dental/vision) is coming off of my salary. The wife says that her doing housework should be worth something, even though I actually help out with a lot of it. While that may be true, her housework doesn’t pay the electric bill or the mortgage. What has happened is that she is constantly broke and I am the one that has to pick up the slack and pay almost all of the bills. I want us to get a joint account so we can at least pay the household bills out of one account and then set up an allowance system. We’ve been married a year but already the arguments over money are causing issues. (Before we got married, I made slightly less than she did)

Maximo Baskin - August 27, 2010 - 6:50 am

very sweet post

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