Presenting a Unified Front as a Parent

I’ve always believed that when you marry someone, you need to be sure that you have enough similarities that you have a good chance of making it.  These similarities are different for every person though.  For some, it is having a common religion or code of values, for others it is sharing similar personality traits.  The point is, there has to be some common ground somewhere.

The CPA and I ended up together because of our similarities and they are what help make our marriage work.   But having a lot in common doesn’t necessarily guarantee that we’ll be good parents.  In fact, just because someone has the same background or political beliefs doesn’t mean that they’ll have the same views on when to put the children to bed or how much TV they should be allowed to watch.

We’ve been discussing this in recent weeks because we both realize how important it is, at least for us, to be unified in our parenting style.   So far, we agree on the majority of areas, which is good.  For example, we both feel that a certain amount of TV is fine (when the baby is older of course) but that it should be allowed only when homework is done and only for a limited amount of time.  We both want to raise our child/children with the same religious foundation that we have which means regular church attendance as well as family prayers and activities.  Another example: we want to have regular family dinners be a part of our daily routine, which may not sound like a big deal, but given our work schedules and past habits, it may be a challenge.  

Through recent discussions we realize that for the most part, we agree on these things, which is important as they are the little things that will make up the day-to-day experiences for our child.  But there are some areas where we don’t agree and that is where we will have a challenge.  For example, I tend to want to take it easy when playing around whereas the CPA loves to wrestle and roughhouse (this probably comes from him having three brothers and raising four sons, I’m sure).  Another example: the CPA is in favor of setting aside a trust fund to pay for college education and other related expenses, whereas my experience has taught me that there were benefits to having to pay for my education on my own.  Also, I tend to be a little over protective and want to safeguard against certain activities where possible (we’re still discussing the whole football playing issue) whereas the CPA has been there and done that and is a little more relaxed in his parenting approach.  

While disagreeing on these issues probably won’t affect our children too much, allowing them to see that we disagree may cause some problems.  Will it ruin a child if one parent lets him/her watch more TV than the other parent?  In the short run, no.  Will it cause discord and frustration between the parents?  Possibly yes, at least at some point.  Which is why we’re trying now to come up with compromises for the areas in which we disagree.  Because no matter what decisions we make in how to raise our kids, we won’t be effective unless we present a unified front.  At least we agree on that.

Now if I could just make him see the problem with little boys playing football….

What do you think, is it necessary to agree on everything as a parent?  What areas do you and your spouse disagree on with regards to raising your children?

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joy - December 14, 2009 - 5:43 am

I think it would be hard to agree on everything as parents just because, as you pointed out, of the different upbringing you and your partner might have. My husband and I agree, in general, on our views of a lot of things when it comes to our three and a half year old. But I think I tend to be a little stricter and less tolerant only because I realize this is how I was raised. Yeah, the thought that you eventually become your parents is true! I don’t believe you need to agree on everything as parents but you need to be on agreement in front of your child. When my older son was getting to an age where he understood things such as consequences for his actions, I remember having to tell my husband he needed to reinforce things I did on a daily basis with him. I say this because my husband works and I don’t, so when he would be home, he would be more inclined to let bad behavior go without punishment whereas I would quickly punish (with time out) because I had to deal with the behavior all day. My advice is never to discuss these matters in front of your children, and we have tried to make sure not to. It is good to start and have a somewhat deep conversation about it before the baby comes, but I think you have to deal with a lot of things when it happens on a day to day basis. It is easy to say how you will and will not do things but you can quickly change your mind when you are in certain situations constantly. Here, in our household, we do eat dinner together for majority of the time but there’s also days we don’t because my husband does get home until 8:30 PM due to his work schedule. TV, unfortunately, becomes somewhat of a distraction for our older son now that we have another little one in our household. But our older son is very active and honestly only watches the TV a quarter of the time as he rather be playing with his cars. Sometimes you gotta make decisions that work for you when presented with a certain situation. Definitely this area is one of the more tougher as a parent!

Janet - December 14, 2009 - 6:16 am

I guess parenting must be the toughest job on the planet. As I got older, I better appreciated the way my parents raised us. They did a pretty good job with all four of us. I know some of the best fun times we four had with our Dad was when he wrestled and rough-housed with us. No one was trying to hurt anyone, but it allowed for a physical contact that was different from being hugged by Mom. Especially for my two brothers. I think we each grew out of it at about ten or eleven.

Kristy - December 14, 2009 - 6:39 am

I think it’s down right impossible to agree on everything. :) Part of the reason for this is because you can not come up with every possible scenario ahead of time. Like, who knew we’d have to deal with a four year old who would touch ornaments with her foot after hearing, “Hands off?”

We do, however, try our best not to disagree in front of the children. Sometimes we shoot looks at each other over their heads though! We try to keep our discussions about things that come up out of ear shot. There are things that we handle differently as mother and father. This is becoming evident as our four year old often asks one of us something and then tries the other parent for a “better” response. Generally we give the same answer, and our policy is who ever answered first is the answer that stands–at least this time.

There are lots of activities we do differently too. Justin does the rough housing and YouTube videos (generally of Looney Tunes). I do more quiet activities and cooking with the kids. Part of that is our personalities and I think it’s also the general way that things tend to fall along gender lines too. We don’t disagree over them (for the most part), but the kiddos know who to ask for Bugs Bunny.

We agree on the big things, and that’s what matters. You just have to cross the rest of the bridges as you get there.
.-= Kristy´s last blog ..Christmas Traditions =-.

Dustin | Engaged Marriage - December 14, 2009 - 8:01 am

You will never agree on everything in parenting or any other topic. And, really, you shouldn’t. After all, you are a woman and he is a man, and you have different backgrounds and personalities.

Personally, I think it is perfectly fine (healthy in fact) to have differences like those you pointed out in play time. I love to wrestle with our kids and be the “tickle monster” while my wife would rather sit at the table and color with them. Our kids love both activities, and they know whether they should ask Daddy or Mama depending on how crazy they want to act.

That said, I think that you do need to agree on the important, foundational parenting issues, such as discipline, religion, homework policies, chores, etc. And if you don’t agree with each other, you need to choose a consistent system that you can both live it and use that. When it comes to these areas where kids do crave consistency, you really need to put up a united front and at least appear to be in total agreement.

Parenting is fun, and you’ll learn so much as you go!
.-= Dustin | Engaged Marriage´s last blog ..A Wedding Prayer: What Special Memories Do You Hold From Your Wedding Day? =-.

Stephanie - December 14, 2009 - 9:24 am

I think a united front is the most important thing–if you find yourselves disagreeing in front of the child, come to a short-term solution, and then discuss it between the two of you to find a long-term compromise. Sean and I agree on most things, but not everything, and what we haven’t agreed on, we’ve compromised on. We talk about E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G, sooo..that’s what works for us! :)
.-= Stephanie´s last blog ..I don’t even know what to call this =-.

Kristina P. - December 14, 2009 - 9:38 am

This is something that I do worry about a bit. My husband comes from a military backgroud where they did spankings and so forth. His dad was very harsh. I don’t believe in that kind of thing. We’ll see what happens.

Terra - December 14, 2009 - 10:56 am

I think as long as the big things in life are agreed upon and you two can remain united, I don’t think the little things matter as much. Church, family, morals, ethics, etc are the BIG things. Tv, rough housing (it’s a guy thing), sugar, and all the little things that can be worked out as you go. :)
.-= Terra´s last blog ..Our new family =-.

Kate - December 15, 2009 - 9:39 am

Interesting topic! My husband and I are both from divorced parents, so we’ve both seen our fair share of disagreements between parents and diverse parenting styles. I think this gives us both a great perspective on how we will parent our little one when the time comes. Currently we agree on *almost* everything, but I’m sure there’s a whole world of topics we haven’t even thought of. I trust that we’ll be able to navigate those together, though, as they come up.
.-= Kate´s last blog ..She Says… First Ultrasound! =-.

Sarah @ BecomingSarah.com - December 15, 2009 - 6:46 pm

I think it is impossible to agree on everything, but I also think that disagreeing sometimes is good. It’s good for the parents to compromise, or to even wholly submit to one another from time to time. It teaches us to have faith in our spouse (after all, their way turned out just fine) and compromising makes us stronger. Moreover, I think that while a united front is important most of the time, disagreeing and even fighting can be good for a child to see…in small amounts, of course. I don’t think it’s a good idea to give the kid something to worry about, but I do think that you cannot expect your child(ren) to have healthy relationships in life unless you demostrate one. And part of a healthy relationship is disagreeing, discussing it, compromising, and moving forward.

The truth is that while Donald and I are lucky not to disagree on many of the big things, we do disagree on plenty of small things we never thought about. Like I want to wait until around seven months to give Charlotte solid foods. I want her to continue nursing past one year and my understanding is that while she should be introduced to solids before 8 months, she is more likely to self-wean before one year if she has solids before six months. Donald, on the other hand, wants to give her little tastes (but not actual mouthfuls) of foods now since she’s teething and showing interest in food and drink.

It’s a very small thing and it doesn’t matter much in the long run whether or not we let her gum a day-old baguette, but it is something we disagree on lol.

Heather - December 16, 2009 - 4:04 am

I think it’s not at all a game of agree or disagree (as if you have these cards that you flip over and each one has something your child wants to do and you both have to agree or disagree, and this will predict your success as parents) – I totally don’t think that’s how it works in real life at all.

Really, I think it’s all actually a continuum of how comfortable you are with something. One end of the continuum is where you are completely comfortable with the thing activity or idea, and as you move down the continuum, you become more and more wary of it, until you get to the other end, where you say “my kid is NOT doing that, no-way, no-how!” And the thing is, usually you and the CPA will probably be at different points on that continuum (probably in similar spots on the big stuff like religion, values, etc, and farther apart on the little stuff, like football, spending money, curfew, etc). The important thing is to respect the different places you are at, and as long as one of you is not at the no-way-no-how end, find something you can both live with. For example, the CPA may be completely comfortable taking your boy to get his driver’s permit on his 15th birthday, and then teaching him to drive right away and letting him drive everywhere you go… while you may be very uncomfortable with that, not want to be in the car even though you know he has to learn this some day, and you will go and cry and worry and stare at his baby pictures and wonder where the time has gone- and neither position is wrong, and both of them mean you love your child and want what is best for him.

Of course you don’t want to discuss your disagreements in front of your kids. But kids are SO perceptive, and they know how to get what they want- they will know who to ask when it’s time to stay up late, and who they can make a really cute face at and get an extra cookie when they’ve already eaten four. They will know who is softer (aka more comfortable with) some things, and who is softer on other things. Because really, the lesson isn’t just to have a united front with your children…it’s so much more than that. The lesson is to teach and show your child what it means to respect and support a loved one’s decision even when you do not entirely agree with it- and that is such a huge way to model a strong marriage and your love for each other to your children.

I think it’s not so much about honestly agreeing in your heart about the issue, or negotiating a compromise, but having the other’s back. If little boy is blatantly ignoring mom’s requests that he pick up a toy, and then little boy walks up to dad and wants to play, dad needs to say something along the lines of “Go listen to your mother, and pick up the toys, and then I’ll play with you/give you my attention/etc.” The same goes for all of the everyday choices you might make differently, like staying up past bedtime, more candy, when to leave the park, how much to discipline and when, etc. If you come home and dad says that your son is going to bed at 6pm because he scribbled all over the walls (for attention) 2 seconds after he was told not to, you will support that and most importantly, emphatically help enforce it, even if you think the punishment is ridiculous.

Oooh, I could go on and on with these scenarios. I can’t wait to hear your stories of the things your little one gets into. Because the fact of the matter is, this parenting as a united front is not about the big issues at all -of course you already have most of those worked out, you’ve survived marriage thus far quite well it seems. It’s about all of the little issues that you will face every single day. Because every kid pushes the limits to see how far they can push – and you and the CPA will have different limits on different things, because you are different people with different experiences- this is normal. I think that in most cases, you should embrace the slight differences in your parenting styles (rather than fight the differences) and acknowledge and appreciate what the other brings to the table. There will probably be days that you will overreact & overworry, and other days where he will “underreact” (is that a word?). He is the yin to your yang, and ultimately your child will benefit from parenting that will fall somewhere in the middle between you two- so long as you do provide a united front rather than a split front. Ultimately, the goal is not to have the same limits, it’s to respect and enforce each other’s limits, and model this respect for your children.

This is one of your posts that I think you should save and pull out about 15+ years from now, when you will probably think “Pfft, and I was worried about roughousing and football?!?! I’ll take him joining football or roughousing with buddies any day over girlfriends, peer pressure, rock concerts, driving, college decisions, and teenage hormones!”

Parenting is simultaneously the scariest, coolest, and most rewarding rollercoaster you will ever get on. I hope you enjoy the ride…together.

shell - December 16, 2009 - 2:38 pm

I’m married, but have no kids — so I haven’t got it all figured out… but I know I never will either. I’ve always had the position of not fighting or arguing in front of children – but recently, I heard a mother describe how she was in the situation where she and her husband had a squabble over something in front of their child (not neccessarily having anything to do with the child) and then soon after, they kissed and apologized, also in front of their child. Their little girl said, “I was waiting for that!” Even though she and her husband had not meant for their daughter to see them arguing, they realized how important it was for her to see them make-up.

I have met/dated people who have thought that a big argument ends in splitting up/divorcing… or people that will avoid disagreeing altogether because they think that having an argument will lead to splitting up. I guess it is very important to set the example that it is normal to have arguments or to discuss issues, and that you do your best to try to resolve them and move on. (Easier said than done!) Of course I’m sure you will do your best not to have disagreements in front of your child, but its probably going to happen at some point… or even several…. just make sure to remember that the most important thing for your child to see is you guys forgiving each other.

Heidi - December 17, 2009 - 12:56 pm

Family dinners are a must! Chocolate ice cream after dinner is also a must!

Don’t let your kids listen to the Jonas Brothers and all that crap kid music. Play ‘em good stuff. Play ‘em Bob Dylan and Joni Mitchell. Keep video games out of the house until he’s a teenager and explain that while Kurt Cobain recorded a few good tunes in the 90s, drugs are, for the most part, bad.
.-= Heidi´s last blog ..Aint no mountain high enough =-.

Laura - January 3, 2010 - 8:07 pm

While I think it’s important for parents to present themselves as a non-manipulate-able front, I also think it’s important for children to realize that their parents are people and individuals with their own sets of values and own style of doing things. It can be a fine line to tread, but if you know your child half as well as you know your spouse, you should be fine.

Marlaine - January 14, 2010 - 2:45 pm

A united front is so important! So is keeping a straight face…because when the kids are little and doing something that is sooo cute and sooo naughty, the parent who can keep the straightest face has to deal with it while the other parent is running to another room to try to contain the laughter! ;-) I call it tag-team parenting! It’s important all the way through, because it is also true in the reverse: the parent who can keep it together during a negative situation is the one who steps in while the other parent takes a break and cools off.

As an only girl with three brothers, and a mom of four, (ages 22, 20, 15, 13), three of whom are boys, there’s no getting away from physical contact. Just realize that boys are physically hard-wired different than girls! We totally DON’T GET IT! We can walk through a room without feeling the need to touch or whack objects or people, without shooting imaginary balls at imaginary baskets. Rolling around on the floor in a huge sweaty dogpile holds no interest for me whatsoever, but call it wrestling with Dad, and all the boys are IN!

I tell my guys that I don’t understand their wiring, but I respect it. Which means no disparaging comments when they dogpile on the floor, want to watch movies with big explosions (the bigger the better!), and are thrilled when December rolls around so they can go out to the sagebrush with shotguns and obliterate all my pumpkins (aka outside fall decor). My daughter and I simply smile and enjoy the girly things we do together, knowing that the guys have NO desire to go to town with us, watch chick flicks, and read vintage romance books. Again, totally different wiring and desires!

There is a need to guys to test themselves, which often means taking physical risks, and is something we moms do NOT like at all! (And I’m not condoning stupidity or recklessness!) But, I’m also aware that I could totally wreck my sons by coddling them and saying “No” to everything that even has a hint of risk. Helping them be aware of risks and figuring out how to accomplish their desired activities safely are important life lessons.

Our culture supports females having a variety of interests depending on their internal wiring, but mocks men for doing the same. If there’s something you need to protect your sons from, it’s the male backlash in today’s society. Read Kathleen Parker’s “Save The Males” for an insightful and startling viewpoint on this topic.

Anyway, blessings to you and your husband as you embark on this parenting journey together! Parenting: it’s not just a job, it’s an adventure! (borrowed that phrase from the army, but it’s true of parenting, as well!) ;-)

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